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24 июн. 2019 в 18:41

Which orbs does this protect against?

It doesn't protect against using a chaos orb, everything gets re-rolled.

Will it prevent the prefixes from being rerolled by a divine orb?
Will it prevent an orb of annulment from removing any of prefixes and force it to remove only suffixes?
Will it prevent an exalted orb from adding a prefix and force it to only add suffixes?

Does it protect against anything else?

The same questions would apply to "suffixes cannot be changed".

What I'd like is a way to re-roll only suffixes or only prefixes. By reroll, i mean randomly pick new ones.

So if I had a tier 1 life, and garbage suffixes, I could lock in the Life prefix and keep re-rolling until I got good suffixes. Or, vice versa by locking in suffixes and trying to get new prefixes.

Is there by chance a website where you can practice crafting to see exactly what everything does?

25 июн. 2019 в 0:49

I am also curious about these questions. I've never done much workbench crafting and i figure it's time to change that.

A website like that would be awesome.

25 июн. 2019 в 5:23 It doesn't protect against chaos ?
I thought it works with chaos but only once (since "prefixes cannot be changed" is a suffix).
I never used those mods myself though.
25 июн. 2019 в 7:10 It doesn't protect against chaos ?
I thought it works with chaos but only once (since "prefixes cannot be changed" is a suffix).
I never used those mods myself though.

Last time I crafted this was how it worked. Protected once but mastermod was toast.

Been a while since I crafted though, and I do suffixes then prefixes, without chaos orbs. They could add too many mods and block the ability to put a 'cannot be changed' on it, then you had to pray an orb of annulment didn't remove the mods you wanted while opening up a prefix/suffix slot you needed.

Any reason you're doing prefixes first? I'm assuming a good life mod?

25 июн. 2019 в 7:28

Crap, forgot to answer original question.

It protects through alteration spam, using a scouring (once), prevents the number from being changed with a divine orb, should prevent the current prefixes from being changed with a chaos orb (but will be removed and possibly replaced with a new mod), and an orb of annulment won't remove a prefix while the mastermod is on the item but it can remove the mastermod.

Also note that the mastermod occupies a suffix slot so after removing it you'll have a suffix slot to fill via exalted orb.

25 июн. 2019 в 7:30

That means that prefixes are protected against Annulment, Chaos, Divine and Scour. But are not protected against rerolls via essence or resonator.

The 'cannot change prefix' is a suffix though, so it will be rerolled. This means that if you annul the item, you could potentially waste exalts because you annul the 'cannot change prefix' mod and have to craft it again. This is why nobody ever does that. If you want to mod suffixes, you scour.

Also, if there is an open prefix, it doesn't prevent getting a prefix slammed. But very few people to do this because it could be a really bad prefix. The better approach is where you have 2-3 desirable (and preferably, rare) prefixes on the item after scouring. Then you can simply add a multimod modifier and choose whatever you want for the remaining slots.

Unless you are swimming in exalts, I wouldn't recommend adding 'prefixes cannot be changed' just to isolate 1 good mod. It's cheaper just to alt spam, augment and regal for whatever you need - if regaled item sucks then, you scour and repeat.

Chaos spam is more random and cost inefficient to the alt-aug-regal-scour or alc-scour methods, especially if you are only looking for one particular mod. Also, since your 'cannot change prefix' mod is removed upon scouring, you'll need to add it on again afterwards to protect your mod against your next chaos application and so on for each chaos. The risk of adding bad suffixes with no easy way to remove them is also not something I would accept.

Frankly, I don't understand why you want to spend 2 ex to preserve a t1 life prefix, and that you are willing to randomly roll suffixes back onto the item afterwards. Mechanically, yes, you can do that; it's your currency, you can do whatever you want with it.

But it would be more cost efficient to buy a high level base, use alt-aug-regal-scour to get 2 desirable mods, metacraft the 'cannot change prefix/suffix', scour and then multimod actual desirable mods back on. At this point, if you are feeling daring or rich, you can spend your wealth trying to annul the 'can have multiple crafted modifiers' mod off after you finish metacrafting, then exalt slamming the last suffix.

25 июн. 2019 в 7:42

i can tell you one example (there are more but i dont fiddle much with the prefix/suffix cant be changed crafting mods) where it's used successfully, and that is the guaranteed way to completely multi mod craft an item to your liking by making use of a "prefixes/suffixes" can't be changed mod and an orb of scouring.

So the short version an orb of scouring wont remove prefixes/suffixes if you added the equivalent crafting mod before using the orb. the crafted mod will then be removed because thats usually always the opposite affix type it wants to protect.

So i'll describe a perfect situation here, any best base weapon type; your aim is to get a 1 affix rare weapon, under normal circumstances an item will be reverted back to magic rarity if only one suffix/prefix mod remains on the item (except when you are using orb of annulment but ignore that situation for now). But there is a way to accomplish this without using orb of annulments and at least eliminate the RNG of orb of annulment at the cost of higher currency for the craft.

step 1: you apply an orb of transmutation to a white/normal weapon base type to turn it into a magic rarity item.
step 2: you use alteration spam to get a desired tier 1 prefix/suffix, in this perfect situation you hit tier 1 increased physical weapon damage as a single prefix mod and no suffix mod.
step 3: you then apply a regal orb to upgrade the item to rare rarity and the item gets a random suffix you dont want for this weapon (in this example)
step 4: you add the "can have multiple crafted mod" suffix for 2 exalted orbs
step 5: you then craft the "prefixes can't be changed" suffix mod for 2 exalted orbs, your suffix slots are full now.
step 6: you then craft ANY prefix to simply have 2 prefixes at that moment, more explanation on that later.
step 7: you then use an orb of scouring on the item, because you crafted "prefixes cant be changed" on the item beforehand the end result is a RARE weapon with one desired and one crafted random prefix. If you did not add a random crafted prefix before using an orb of scouring your item would have been downgraded to a 1 prefix mod MAGIC item.
step 8: you then remove the random crafted prefix with the WORKBENCH (another orb of scouring cost). You now have a Rare weapon with 1 desired prefix because removing the crafted prefix doesnt downgrade the item to a one prefix magic rarity item.
step 9: you add the "can have multiple crafted mods" suffix again for 2 exalted orbs, and fill up all the prefix/suffix slots to your liking.

Ultimately this is the guaranteed more costy way to setup a desired 1 prefix/suffix rare item to multicraft with. however only if you managed to hit your desired prefix/suffix tier roll as only mod as magic item in the beginning of the crafting process. Therefore it's strongly recommended to replace this costy method by making use of an orb of annulment at the cost of RNG, this orb can remove a random mod of an item which doesnt affect the item rarity. So if you used an orb of annulment in the above mentioned crafting steps then you only needed to do steps 1-3, use an orb of annulment hoping to remove the added suffix and behold, you also have a 1 (desired) prefix mod rare item.

On the path of exile gamepedia wiki in the crafting section : "suffix or prefix wipe" there is another situation described for crafting purposes :) hopefully this post was helpful to you!

Can have up to 3 Crafted Modifiers - Path of Exile

"Can have up to 3 crafted modifiers" is a suffix(of Crafting). It costs two Exalted Orbs.

This mod counts as one of the crafted modifiers. Therefore, you can only add two extra crafted mods.

This strategy is used to create high-quality items with up to 5 desirable mods. This crafted modifier is itself counted as a modifier, meaning this craft essentially allows you to add two other crafted modifiers through the crafting bench, instead of the normal one. The downsides to this strategy are that the crafted modifier takes up one of the three suffix spots (where some of the most powerful crafted mods reside) and that crafting the mod costs two exalted orbs, which is quite expensive. Multimodding is ideally done on an item with three desirable mods. These are usually created through alt-aug-regaling.

Orb of Scouring removes all random modifiers from a magic or rare piece of equipment. Therefore, crafted Mods will be removed. However, implicit modifiers, quality, sockets, and links are not removed, as well as affixes protected by meta-crafting mods. For example, if you use "Suffixes Cannot Be Changed" on an item, then using Orb of Scouring, "Can have up to 3 crafted modifiers" can be retained.

Another method to remove crafted mods is through Crafting Bench: Remove Crafted Mods. The cost is an Orb of Scouring.

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How to unlock Can have up to 3 Crafted Modifiers recipe

Suffix Modifier	Stats	Cost	Recipe location
of Crafting	Can have up to 3 Crafted Modifiers	2× Exalted Orb	The Pale Court

1. Obtain the above map fragments by purchasing from other players. The total price is about 28 Chaos Orb x 4 = 112 Chaos Orb.

2. As shown in the following image, insert these map framents into the Map Device in the correct order:

3. Then, open the The Pale Court area. Fight the bosses and unlock the crafting recipes.

Can have up to 3 crafted modifiers prefix or suffix?

"Can have up to 3 crafted modifiers" is a suffix(of Crafting).

Example

The following image shows a magic quiver and a rare helmet. These two items all have of Crafting mods: Can have up to 3 Crafted Modifiers.

Suffixes Cannot Be Changed - Path of Exile

Using the Suffixes Cannot Be Changed meta-crafting mod to combine multiple other meta-crafting mods allows for even more control of the item. This way the player can often limit the pool of possible mods so that outcome of the craft is almost guaranteed.

Note: Suffixes are protected against Chaos Orb, Orb of Annulment, Divine Orb, Veiled Chaos Orb, Harvest reforges and Orb of Scouring. But are not protected against rerolls via essence, fossil, Maven's Orb, or Awakener's Orb.

The 'Suffixes Cannot Be Changed' is a also a prefix, so it will be rerolled.

Orb of Scouring respects the meta-crafting mod. Orb of Scouring removes all random modifiers from a magic or rare piece of equipment. Implicit modifiers, quality, sockets, and links are not removed, as well as affixes protected by meta-crafting mods. This way, players can lock in modifiers without losing all the other modifiers. The better approach is where you have 3 desirable (and preferably, rare) suffixes on the item after scouring.
Chaos Orb respects the meta-crafting mod. If you put 'Suffixes cannot be changed' and use a Chaos Orb on the item, it will keep the suffixes and reroll new prefixes. Note that the "suffixes cannot be changed" is also a prefix and will be removed. Chaos spam is more random and cost-inefficient than the alt-aug-regal-scour or alc-scour methods. Also, since your 'cannot change suffix' mod is removed upon scouring, you'll need to add it on again afterward to protect your mod against your next chaos application and so on for each chaos. The risk of adding bad prefixes with no easy way to remove them is also not something I would accept.
Essence ignores the meta-crafting mod. Using an essence on an item with a meta-crafting mod will ignore that mod and overwrite existing prefixes and suffixes ignoring any restrictions.
Fossil ignores the meta-crafting mod. Using a fossil + resonator on an item with a meta-crafting mod will ignore that mod and overwrite existing prefixes and suffixes ignoring any restrictions.
Orb of Annulment respects the meta-crafting mods. It won't remove a suffix while the "Suffixes Cannot Be Changed" is on the item but it can remove the "Suffixes Cannot Be Changed" mods. This means that if you annul the item, you could potentially waste exalts because you annul the 'cannot change suffix' mod and have to craft it again. This is why nobody ever does that. If you want to mod prefixes, you scour.
Divine Orb respects the meta-crafting mod.
Veiled Chaos Orb respects prefixes/suffixes cannot be change.
Harvest reforges respect prefixes/suffixes cannot be change.
Awakener's Orb now ignores Mastercrafting Metamods.
Maven's Orb now ignores Mastercrafting Metamods. Legacy modifiers or modifiers that can't be changed (e.g. suffixes on an item with the "Suffixes can't be changed" mod) will not be affected.

Also, note that the meta-crafting mod occupies a prefix slot so after removing it you'll have a prefix slot to fill via Exalted Orb.

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Prefix Modifier	Stats	Cost	Recipe location
Suffixed	Suffixes Cannot Be Changed	2× Exalted Orb	complete The Unbreathing Queen prophecy chain

The Unbreathing Queen is a five-part prophecy chain. While completing it, the map would spawn the clickable object to unlock Suffixed(Suffixes Cannot Be Changed) crafting mods.

PoE suffixes cannot be changed Veiled Chaos Orb

Veiled Chaos Orb respects prefixes/suffixes cannot be change.

After having rolled some desired affixes, one can utilize the Prefixes/Suffixes Cannot Be Changed meta-crafting mod to protect them while altering the item. In the example below, we're pleased with the following suffix modifiers:

17(17-19)% Increased Cast Speed
+35(30-35)% To Fire Resistance
14(10-19)% Increased Mana Regeneration Rate

These are all suffixes. We don't care for the other modifiers. In this case, we can craft the (Suffixes Cannot Be Changed) to protect these mods and reroll the prefixes. Note that this meta-crafing mod is also a prefix, so it will be wiped in the process.

Suffixes Cannot Be Changed example

The following image shows two influenced items. They all have Suffixed mods: Suffixes Cannot Be Changed.

has this been a confirmed fact and im just an idiot for not knowing?

I just wasted 8 exalts on crafting for nothing

Item 1
Warlord Influence (Magic Item)
1 Prefix <- i want this mod to stay
Prefixes cannot be change

Item 2
Hunter Influence (Magic Item)
1 Prefix
1 Suffix <- Hunter Mod

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